tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post5734674094521208229..comments2024-03-01T06:33:20.145-07:00Comments on The Running Man: Ramping Up for the Marathon / Ultrarunner of the Year ThoughtsWyatt Hornsbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-26344551046470533902012-09-26T10:37:55.487-06:002012-09-26T10:37:55.487-06:00Yeah, I remember now. It was North America. What...Yeah, I remember now. It was North America. Whatever. <br /><br />Ya gotta to wonder what Morton would have done at WS this year had he been in it. <br /><br />But that would be a woulda shoulda coulda thing. So it does not count. Nor does it count as to what mountain guys woulda coulda shoulda done on a road circuit. <br /><br />Morton did not have one performance this year. He has had a handful. Maybe some of his races were not competitive as others - but 13 hours is SOLID. <br /><br />I hesitate to bring this up ... but isn't it known that the times at WS are a bit fast because of the downhill nature of it?GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623054918799881730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-27713858031100472522012-09-26T10:30:44.029-06:002012-09-26T10:30:44.029-06:00GZ: I believe Ellie is eligble because she lives i...GZ: I believe Ellie is eligble because she lives in North America (Canada).<br /><br />Hogback: I'll have to disagree with you on this one. The fact is that Morton beat an amazing record--actually he shattered it by 5 miles. That record, when Jurek broke it, had stood for over 10 years (and was previously held by a friend of mine, Mark Godale). There are some very strong 24-hour runners around the world and they were basically all there in Poland. Morton became the first American EVER to win an ultra world championship. But, yeah, 24-hour races and mountain ultras are very different sports. We'll ever know how good the mountain guys could be at 24-hour races until they start doing them. Personally, I think it would be crushingly hard mentally and physically for an elite who's used to running 100 miles in 14 or 15 hours to have to go on for another 9 or 10 hours. Morton has the unique ability to do that. Only a few guys cross over. But, to me, no one has approached what Morton's done this year.<br /><br />Also, many still hold Morton's CR at Western as the true record because it was on the "old" course. I don't know what to think about that, but it's an interesting viewpoint.<br /><br />WyattWyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-25447632731757409952012-09-26T09:48:39.875-06:002012-09-26T09:48:39.875-06:00Also, for womeon's performance of the year, wh...Also, for womeon's performance of the year, whatever Liz Bauer ends up with in her attempt at the single year 100 race finish number. She's currently already finished 26 of them and its not even October.<br /><br />http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Liz&lname=Bauer&age=0<br />Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02376446409534942024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-65751551135640154452012-09-26T07:51:48.081-06:002012-09-26T07:51:48.081-06:00Well Hog, to your point (kind of) Jurek won WS sev...Well Hog, to your point (kind of) Jurek won WS several times in a row and used to own the 24 hour record. I think one could argue if Ian Sharman, TonyK, and others slowed down just a touch on their 12h45m and 13h 100s and kept going for 24 hours, they could get close.<br /><br />But also keep in mind Morton won WS and owned the true original CR for a long time. He also won many other mountain ultras like Massanutten, Masochist, etc.<br /><br />Morton has a personal goal of breaking 13h in a 100. Given how many times he's been close...even when a part of a 24 hour event, it wouldn't surprise me to see a sub 13 at one of the last 2 100s he has registered for this year.<br /><br />I think a 50 mile race is too short for him. :)Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02376446409534942024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-9157935117431750272012-09-26T04:09:20.910-06:002012-09-26T04:09:20.910-06:00I guess I have a more mountain perspective on the ...I guess I have a more mountain perspective on the whole process. Although I am nothing but impressed by Morton's accomplishments, I view the whole 24/48/72 hour running field to be rather weak. If all the same running talent in the mountain scene were to focus on those records I believe the 24 hour record would be much higher. Fact is very few people care about that distance. Olsen broke the CR at one of the most historic and competitive ultras and overall has been ripping it up. <br /><br /><br />POY for women should go to Tina Lewis. 2nd fastest time at LT in a very competitive race. <br /><br />As Brett pointed out, still a lot of racing left for the year. It would be awesome if Morton would run NF50 to see where he stands.<br /><br />GZ - it seems like only yesterday we were arguing whether KJ could win UROY. I think it was decided that you could win if you were a non-US citizen if your permanent mailing address was somewhere in North America with the exception of Mexico and Quebec. I thought the name had changed to NAUROY. At least soon we can start arguing about how unfair the HR/WS lotteries are!<br /><br /><br />Hogback Trail Racinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06008366680911122270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-36901728817826060382012-09-25T20:27:43.324-06:002012-09-25T20:27:43.324-06:00Morton.Morton.Jim P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06566980370651311505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-73900580858486977742012-09-25T17:59:12.863-06:002012-09-25T17:59:12.863-06:00Minor technical question ... is Ellie eligible? i...Minor technical question ... is Ellie eligible? i know she lives in CA but isn't she a Scot?GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623054918799881730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-7997477405261415712012-09-25T17:57:17.816-06:002012-09-25T17:57:17.816-06:00If Morton does not win UROY, it is a crime and Ult...If Morton does not win UROY, it is a crime and Ultrarunning mag sure burn.GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623054918799881730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-27803977838697475362012-09-25T13:07:34.761-06:002012-09-25T13:07:34.761-06:00Also, Mike is registered for two more 100s yet thi...Also, Mike is registered for two more 100s yet this year (Javelina & Ancient Oaks). Of course a 13h 100 can never be taken for granted for anyone, but he already has 4 (including the 100 mile point in Poland)...could you imagine 6 13h 100s in one year? LOL.Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02376446409534942024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-91540891770606951932012-09-25T12:50:55.475-06:002012-09-25T12:50:55.475-06:00I am biased towards Mike and feel he is running th...I am biased towards Mike and feel he is running the best of anyone this year and that matters.<br /><br />But I think a lot of others are biased towards races out West and I bet Olson gets more votes than you would expect.<br /><br />At any rate, I hope Mike toes the line next year at Western like he is planning right now. Because it certainly is hard to pick between two people who never raced in the same event and ran two completely different types of races this year.<br />Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02376446409534942024noreply@blogger.com