tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post4824462110383537973..comments2024-03-01T06:33:20.145-07:00Comments on The Running Man: Bighorn 100 PlanWyatt Hornsbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-78126894560624201372015-04-24T14:43:10.418-06:002015-04-24T14:43:10.418-06:00Great information! I will running Bighorn this sum...Great information! I will running Bighorn this summer and hope to crack 24hrs as well. I broke 24 at my first 100, Pine to Palm, last fall but it sounds like Bighorn presents an entirely different set of challenges. Here's to continued good training and hope to see you out on the course.Tom https://www.blogger.com/profile/05401512448440072181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-63392176418091456692015-04-24T05:13:30.923-06:002015-04-24T05:13:30.923-06:00I appreciate all the responses from people who'...I appreciate all the responses from people who've run this in the past. This year will be my first go at BigHorn and all of this insight has been really helpful. I'll be sure to put it to good use.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06364050021996942483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-47291054658797566002015-02-28T16:18:53.136-07:002015-02-28T16:18:53.136-07:00Thanks, Brian. The content will keep coming!Thanks, Brian. The content will keep coming!Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-85497350560714824532015-02-28T16:18:34.574-07:002015-02-28T16:18:34.574-07:00Indeed, Brett. I'll be shopping for a really g...Indeed, Brett. I'll be shopping for a really good headlamp coming up. Might have drop some dollars on it but it may be worth it at Bighorn.Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-81504951723257173012015-02-28T16:17:42.889-07:002015-02-28T16:17:42.889-07:00Thanks. I heard it's pretty much impossible to...Thanks. I heard it's pretty much impossible to keep the feet dry. Will do my best.Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-77240916816339644792015-02-28T16:17:13.124-07:002015-02-28T16:17:13.124-07:00Thanks, Andrew. That's very helpful. I like th...Thanks, Andrew. That's very helpful. I like the thought of technical mountain trails! I'll be doing some night runs coming up.Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-29960540426158390412015-02-27T18:39:34.704-07:002015-02-27T18:39:34.704-07:00Good stuff. I'll be running Bighorn this year ...Good stuff. I'll be running Bighorn this year as well and it's helpful to hear your thoughts. It's like seeing the voice in my head transcribed. Keep it coming.Brian Donnellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16923203611826242377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-21181026843179540412015-02-27T13:22:23.367-07:002015-02-27T13:22:23.367-07:00If I remember right, 70s at the bottom and in town...If I remember right, 70s at the bottom and in town during the day is not uncommon, but so is 20F and windy at the very top in the middle of the night when you are turning around.<br /><br />I only did the 50, so I had no problem negotiating the muck all the way down, but I can totally see the comment above about route finding, etc. in that area at night. There will likely be a lot of glare and reflecting from puddles and water and lots of areas with no discernable trail. It was easy during daylight where the 20 foot wide trample foot sucking footprints all kind of meandered around to as you looked out over the next 100 yards, but I bet in the headlamp tunnels you'll have to go quite slow.Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02376446409534942024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-64357799044820071622015-02-27T13:01:36.473-07:002015-02-27T13:01:36.473-07:00Wyatt, it's exactly like the Clifton. These a...Wyatt, it's exactly like the Clifton. These are the only two Hokas I can wear due to the roomier toe box.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06040979544197433438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-5241925813804053762015-02-27T11:10:38.583-07:002015-02-27T11:10:38.583-07:00Hmm, there was a ton of carnage at 33 last year be...Hmm, there was a ton of carnage at 33 last year because the heat, while it didn't seem too bad, snuck up on people that didn't hydrate and stay cool. It's high and dry and a little sun goes a long way. Dunk at streams, drink a ton, etc. I paced/crewed there last year. The mud was something else, so figure out how to get your feet dry. Always have options in drop bags. My friend wore 5 different pairs of shoes.Big Poppahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720963350070586144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-55736189476187282592015-02-27T08:35:27.228-07:002015-02-27T08:35:27.228-07:00I really enjoyed Bighorn and I think you will too,...I really enjoyed Bighorn and I think you will too, Wyatt. It was a refreshing change from Leadville for me-- especially since I ran it without a crew or pacers. Very scenic. More solitary. Rugged,<br /><br />You can read my rambling race report, if you'd like: http://pb-runner.blogspot.com/2014/07/bighorn-100-race-report.html.<br /><br />While I don't think Bighorn is that much harder than Leadville (maybe ~1 hour slower for a mid-pack runner), I do think it's harder to run faster. As you negotiate the many sections of very faint, narrow single track you'll realize how runnable Leadville's course is. (Hope Pass is a highway compared to what you'll see at Bighorn.) At Leadville you can often just zone out and jog along. Not so much at Bighorn. And the difference is only magnified at night. So, yes, practice downhill running, practice night running, but better yet practice both at once on a semi-technical trail while you're sleep deprived!Andrew Reiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17399094750385289663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-90744993743596731482015-02-27T05:17:10.344-07:002015-02-27T05:17:10.344-07:00Thanks, Chris! Yes, it's the power of the unkn...Thanks, Chris! Yes, it's the power of the unknown. Will practice running with wet feet. Shoes that drain well will be critical.Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-29652071876490892322015-02-27T05:16:22.950-07:002015-02-27T05:16:22.950-07:00Thanks, Nick. I've started doing night runs an...Thanks, Nick. I've started doing night runs and have several more planned. Did an almost 20 miler last Friday night with a few buddies. I have run through the night before but that was 2009 at a 24-hour. I'm going to keep practicing.Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-68993139374647935112015-02-27T05:14:56.698-07:002015-02-27T05:14:56.698-07:00Good to know, Michael. I have some old Speedcrosse...Good to know, Michael. I have some old Speedcrosses and will test them in the mud when this snow melts.Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-17899797416141309822015-02-27T05:14:23.602-07:002015-02-27T05:14:23.602-07:00Thanks, Mike! This is very helpful. Yes, my wife a...Thanks, Mike! This is very helpful. Yes, my wife and our son will be there. My folks might come, too. I'll be sure to take in the course and its beauty. I'll be sure to enjoy the popsicles and have warm clothing. Leadville will be good experience as far as dropping temps. Thanks again!Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-32062008410958707072015-02-27T05:13:00.222-07:002015-02-27T05:13:00.222-07:00Will do. Hopefully it's roomy, too--like the C...Will do. Hopefully it's roomy, too--like the Clifton. Thanks, Chris!Wyatt Hornsbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14224514798393011001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-33798005366019403532015-02-26T20:26:31.604-07:002015-02-26T20:26:31.604-07:00Good stuff, Wyatt. I like that the stoke is comin...Good stuff, Wyatt. I like that the stoke is coming back a bit as I'm going through a similar process. All I can add is get used to running with wet feet.<br /><br />https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aqUpvz-G2zQ/TgeMI6MwCRI/AAAAAAAAT4k/DARDD82Rddw/w951-h713-no/IMGP0911.JPGChris Boyackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18388856830599373821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-41533061417513658772015-02-26T18:46:55.038-07:002015-02-26T18:46:55.038-07:00A few comments:
- I don't think Bighorn reall...A few comments:<br /><br />- I don't think Bighorn really gets that warm. Yes it does get a bit warm during the day, but it certainly isn't WS hot. I would say it is actually cooler at Bighorn compared to a lot of races in CO. As Mike said, if anything people have more trouble with the cold than the hot.<br /><br />- My previous experience was that for a lot of the mud there is really nothing you can do. Some sections are ankle to shin deep...no shoe will help with that.<br /><br />- Night running is more important at Bighorn. It might be 77% in the daytime if you take the full time to finish, but if you run in the 24 hr range it means going through an entire night. This is not the case in races like Leadville so being able to run well at night is more important. <br /><br />- If you run under 24 hrs you will be in the top 20 ;-)nmphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02486058267340747104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-12753176165833232432015-02-26T17:03:43.101-07:002015-02-26T17:03:43.101-07:00I love the Rapa Nui, but the mud when I did Big H...I love the Rapa Nui, but the mud when I did Big Horn caked my Hokas and made my feet so heavy it was miserable. I would bring some shoes that shed mud well (like salomon speedcross) in case you get the typical mud. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09493713551320668964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-79103773988824933722015-02-26T15:15:14.920-07:002015-02-26T15:15:14.920-07:00Looks like you have a good plan, Wyatt -- I think ...Looks like you have a good plan, Wyatt -- I think you'll enjoy it and do well!<br />I think you have the basics covered. Ironically, having written race reports for much lamer races, I never wrote a race report for that one due to being busy, but it was one my most favourite races, places, and people.<br />Don't forget to stop and smell the flowers -- literally, enjoy the wildflowers, and let your mind wander during the day and enjoy the scene. I saw moose as well, and hopped over a snake the next morning. There's some fresh spring water out on the course -- it's a very natural place. I spaced out and missed looking up at some sort of 'weeping wall' along the course that was supposed to be impressive. So enjoy all that! There's no reason not to be in a happy headspace the whole first day.<br />And there are little traditions like bacon aid stations, shrimp at the very end (as much of a warning as anything)...and some girls on the last hot, dusty road handing out freezing pops.<br />PLAN TO EAT ONE OF THOSE POPSICLES!<br />You'll have something to look forward to, you'll make the girls' day. I was within a minute or two of going beneath the next hour barrier, but thought it would be stupid to miss out on a popsicle just for a decimal point.<br />It's also a little harder, though, to rely on specific, special food, unless you carry more of it -- being flexible, esp. around the remote aid stations, would be a benefit. You're right, the lower elevation should mean less stomach problems, if you're dealing ok with the heat. <br /><br />Stay focused at night -- with the dispersed crowds and aid stations, and less visual feedback, I had trouble staying focused on climbing at a decent pace at night, despite feeling OK. Also wiped out in the mud a few times when not paying attention (some worse slips actually ended some people's race). <br />A cool thing about the 11am start is that pacing (and spectating) breaks down pretty well at the paces you're talking about: you'll have a pacer basically from dusk to dawn (which is actually more like 9:40pm/4:45am), then you can switch pacers at dawn/sunrise and everybody's fresh, or just finish the daylight hours solo. It's also a good place/time for any crew/family to basically sleep the whole (short) night.<br />You're right about the downhill/quads -- be prepared.<br />One last thing I didn't see you mention is the cold and possible rain at night really has ended people's day with hypothermia. Be sure to leave with warm enough clothing at the turnaround, and possibly before, if weather is predicted and/or things go south. <br />Brendan (solarweasel) and PG (trudgingalong) had good reports regarding weather.<br />Is your family coming out?<br />Best, and enjoy! mike_hinterberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817872376341966540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4979545333979747089.post-23747905872063876312015-02-26T15:00:32.597-07:002015-02-26T15:00:32.597-07:00I would check out the Hoka Challenger ATR as well....I would check out the Hoka Challenger ATR as well. Lightweight and has excellent traction.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06040979544197433438noreply@blogger.com